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Metra Sets Meeting on Oswego Rail Stop

The mayors of Oswego, Montgomery and Aurora will meet with Metra Executive Director Alex Clifford on Jan. 24 to discuss the long-gestating project.

 

Is Metra on track to build a commuter station in Oswego? 

That’s what three suburban mayors hope to find out on Jan. 24, when they head to Chicago to meet with Metra’s executive director, Alex Clifford. According to Oswego Village President Brian LeClercq, the goal of the meeting—which also includes Montgomery Village President Marilyn Michelini and Aurora Mayor Tom Weisner, along with state legislators—is to get everyone on the same page. 

An Oswego commuter station has been a topic of discussion for years, and LeClercq has been a staunch supporter of the idea. Though it could take between 10 and 15 years to complete, and cost more than $120 million, Oswego already has a popular park-and-ride facility near Orchard and Mill roads, established in 2005—the first step toward securing a station.

And before leaving office, former Speaker of the House Dennis Hastert secured roughly $75 million in federal funding for the project.

The demand for rail transportation in the area is high, according to Michelini, with many residents driving to Aurora each day to take the train into Chicago. And transportation remains a major issue for economic growth, Michelini said.

Montgomery has conducted its own study on transit-oriented development, adopted in 2009, and is pursuing a Metra station of its own. Village leaders have designated a site for a park-and-ride and a future station—property on the current home of Lyon Workspace Products on North Main Street.

And though Michelini said she supports a commuter station in Oswego, she’d like to see one in Montgomery as well. It might even be a more attractive option, she said, since Kendall County may have to join the Regional Transportation Authority to accommodate a Metra stop, whereas Kane County—where the Montgomery stop would potentially be located—is already an RTA member.

And with RTA membership comes new taxes, which would have to be approved by county-wide referendum.

“Because of the RTA, while I support locating a station in Oswego, there will still be people who will object,” Michelini said.

LeClercq said Oswego is still moving forward with a second rail option—to become a stop on Amtrak’s Chicago-Quad Cities line. When LeClercq and 14th District Congressman Randy Hultgren last spoke about this project in November, they pitched it as a cheaper and faster way to bring rail traffic to Kendall County.

An Amtrak stop, they said, could be completed within three years, and cost between $6-$10 million, since it would not require laying additional rails.

Amtrak is looking to provide service between Chicago and the Quad Cities in 2014, and Hultgren, who sits on the House Transportation Committee and Rail Subcommittee, said he is hoping to include funding in an impending transportation bill.

But a Metra station is still the goal, LeClercq said. And the Jan. 24 meeting should clarify just where the interested parties stand on the project.

"This meeting is just to make sure we're all on the same page as to what their intentions are,” he said. “I've been trying to get everyone I can to see what our needs are out here, and I hope to be able to communicate that to Metra.”

Related Topics: Amtrak, Brian LeClercq, Marilyn Michelini, Metra, and Randy Hultgren

Paul Lark

7:10 am on Friday, January 6, 2012

Years?? this has been ongoing for over a decade.

Great for politics and press releases and that's about it.

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David Edelman

10:29 am on Friday, January 6, 2012

Interesting, I have seen many of the GOP candidates running for president saying they would cut funding for Amtrack if elected. Additionally, I thought Mr. Hultgren was against big government programs and big spending??? Confusing indeed - people say they dont want big government and big spending programs, but they seem like a good idea when it affects your own backyard anyway......

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Scott

1:14 pm on Friday, January 6, 2012

It may be confusing but the current system under which our country operates mandates that we all send a substantial portion of our incomes to Washington, DC and then elect a representative that will go there and fight to bring our dollars back. Ideally, Oswegoans shouldn't have to pay to build a bridge in Alaska no more than Alaskans should have to contribute towards building a train station in Oswego. But the reality is if we decide not to work within the current system while at the same time trying to replace it, Alaska gets its bridge funded in part by Oswego residents tax $$ while Oswego gets nada. I believe that Hultgren is right to play both sides here.

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David Edelman

1:46 pm on Friday, January 6, 2012

Interesting Scott and some good thoughts. With all due repsect, Mr. Hultgren is a hypocrite when it comes to his tough talk on spending and his anti government approach. He is for this project obviously as yes, he needs the good press, yet he is OK with good health care coverage for he and his family(while he fights to take it away from many others) and fights for funding for Fermi Lab, then truns right around and acts as if he does not participate in the "big government" programs such as these. I hope the train station in Oswego gets built, I hope Amtrack continues and grows and yes, I hope bridges and roads get built around the country where it makes sense as we ship products to and from Alaska along with all the other states. A poor transportation system will equal a poor economy along with many other critical elements where both government and the private sector must be involved together. This November we will all get to decide how we REALLY want to take these programs and our society forward. It will be VERY interesting indeed. Those who say they dont like these programs and projects (and then really do when it benefits them personally) just might get what they want, but will they be able to handle what they get(or no longer be able to get that is)?

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Jane Enviere

8:40 pm on Friday, January 6, 2012

Agreed, David! Hultgren is incredibly skilled at talking out of both sides of his mouth. I guess he only supports big bucks spending if it generates useful press for him. Shocking. lol

Carol Anaski-Figurski

5:40 pm on Friday, January 6, 2012

A train in Oswego would be nice. It would promote extra growth in the community and revive the business district. How much is daley era been given to repair the el stops?
It's this something a grant could do for this community? A 120 million dollars is alot of money. Didn't China just build a state of the art monorail? How did they afford it?

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James Parker

11:37 pm on Sunday, January 8, 2012

Carol, China did it with the money they got from all the manufacturing they do and sending the product here to Wal-Mart. Kohls, Sears and K-Mart.

Dave Bucher

8:57 am on Monday, January 9, 2012

Based on other articles I've seen on the Patch, I would hardly call the park n ride popular. I think about 30 people were using it per day. Hardly justifies spending $120 million to build a station.

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David Edelman

9:37 am on Monday, January 9, 2012

So why doesnt Hultgren stand up and say no to this then? Where is the Tea Party with their signs "stop this wasteful socialist program"?

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George Jones

9:48 am on Tuesday, January 10, 2012

Dave and Others,

I believe some of you are falling into the trap of confusing RIDERS (PERSONS) with RIDERSHIP (TRIPS). As an Oswego taxpayer, I am only concerned about the number of OSWEGO RESIDENTS (PERSONS) using a subsidized bus to get to the Aurora Metra Station.

1. I am ONLY discussing the number of "14 Oswego Rider Persons" ... Not "Oswego Ridership nor Total Ridership - which is the way Pace does it on a bus ride to (A) Aurora and (B) a bus ride back from Aurora.

2. To get to the mean 14 Oswego Residents (PERSONS) using bus service is not that hard. (A) The Total Low & High Ridership numbers are divided by 2 and a mean is taken which = 23 PERSONS. (B) About 60% of these 23 PERSONS are from the Village of Oswego = 14 Oswego PERSONS.

3. It costs $6,478 / year to bus an Oswego PERSON to the Aurora Metra Station.
$90,695 (Annual Bill from Pace) divided by 14 Oswego PERSONS using Pace Bus 907 = $6,478 / year. This is nearly 10 times the annual cost to bus a school student. This $6,478 subsidy per Oswego PERSON is OVER THE TOP .... AND SHOULD BE TRIMMED FROM THE VILLAGE OF OSWEGO BUDGET AS A NON ESSENTIAL SERVICE.

David Edelman

9:53 am on Tuesday, January 10, 2012

I am not the one that is in the trap - it is those who say so often how they dont like big government and big spending such our Congressman and yet he is all for this? What's up with that? For me personally, I hope it gets built - a great add on to the commmunity. The more the better!

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George Jones

11:06 am on Tuesday, January 10, 2012

1. The need for Metra in Oswego is very low with only about 14 Oswego residents taking a Pace bus in Oswego to get into the Aurora Metra Station. To account for Oswego residents driving into Aurora to get on Metra ... let's triple the 14. That's about 40 Oswego residents.

2. Metra wants to spend $6 million over 2 years to do Preliminary Engineering work to extend Metra out from Aurora to Oswego.

3. Dan Kramer (Atty) and Morris, Rose & Co., and Beztek (Client and Land Owner Trusts) want about $6 mil to sell a 20 acre parcel to Oswego for Metra Parking. This land is north of the Park-N-Ride. A big question is who are the real owners of this land and the beneficiaries behind these trusts?

4. The taxpayers in Kendall County have not even voted by a majority in a referendum to increase our Sales Tax by 1% to join the RTA to get Metra into Oswego to serve about 40 Oswego residents ... double that to 80 max to account for all Kendall County Metra riders. An unwanted 1% Sales Tax Increase is another $6 mil down the drain to serve 80 persons out of 114,000 Kendall County residents.

5. Current Cost Estimates for a Taj Mahal Oswego Metra Station and to lay a 3rd BNSF track and improvements from Aurora exceed $125 million.

Add all this up and Metra in Oswego is a LOUSY DEAL for taxpayers to serve about 80 people. Oswego Village Trustees can save us all alot of money for this non essential service Metra boondoggle in these tough economic times by saying NO TO METRA.

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Dave Bucher

1:44 pm on Tuesday, January 10, 2012

Even if a station were built in Oswego, I suspect you'd likely see a schedule similar to what Manhattan has,a very limited number of trains each day.

I took the train from Aurora for over 2 years myself. Based on their location, I suspect many Oswego residents would continue to take the train from Aurora or Rt59, even if an Oswego station was built.

Those that benefit are those that live in Yorkville, Plano, etc who would prefer the closer Oswego station, those in Oswego probably see less of a benefit.

Logansdad

2:19 pm on Thursday, February 2, 2012

Metra goes to Kenotsha. Is Kenosha part of the RTA? Do Kensoha residents pay sales tax which gets funneled to the RTA?

I think many of you are being short sited. You are currently trying to justify the Oswego Metra station based on today's economy. Do you think the economy will never improve? Did you ever think Oswego would have over 30,000 residents? We have to think of the future. I have been taking Metra out of the Aurora station for over 11 years. If we have a stop in Oswego, more people would use the Oswego stop instead of driving to Aurora. People from as far west of DeKalb and Marsailles drive to Aurora to catch the Metra. Right now I refuse to give up my parking space at Aurora because the bus service from the park n ride does not accommodate my schedule and I don't want to be put on another 5 year wait list for parking at Aurora.

Metra is also to blame for the cost of the station. They are the one's insisting on adding a third rail and train depot for the extension. Why isn't the existing rail enough? All people want is the train service and a station. It doesn't have to be as grand as Metra wants.

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George Jones

2:46 pm on Thursday, February 2, 2012

QUESTION from Logansdad: "Metra is the one's insisting on adding a third rail and train depot for the extension. Why isn't the existing rail enough?"

ANSWER: The rails belong to BNSF (Owned by billionaire Warren Buffet) and Metra pays them a hefty fee each year for running Passenger Trains on THEIR RAIL LINES. The people operating the Metra Trains are BNSF Union Employees. Union Station is owned by Amtrak ... not Metra. BNSF's main business is Freight Service and THAT is their big money maker. There is presently a rail line bottle neck every M-F Morning and Evening from Aurora (back west of the Hill St. Station) to Montgomery and further west to let Metra Passenger Trains run unrestricted from the Freight Trains and On Time. Adding an extension out to Oswego would indeed entail a 3rd set of tracks and rail sidings. That's the way things are. So, the main beef you should have is with Warren Buffet ... give him a call in Omaha, Nebraska.

BTW: We can get Amtrak here in 2014 if Oswego Village President Brian LeClercq (and the Village Trustees) gets on the ball and makes things happen on this. Email him at: bleclercq@oswegoil.org Bringing Passenger Rail Service to Oswego with his #1 campaign promise in 2011.

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Logansdad

8:37 am on Friday, February 3, 2012

George Jones: "There is presently a rail line bottle neck every M-F Morning and Evening from Aurora (back west of the Hill St. Station) to Montgomery and further west to let Metra Passenger Trains run unrestricted from the Freight Trains and On Time. Adding an extension out to Oswego would indeed entail a 3rd set of tracks and rail sidings. That's the way things are. So, the main beef you should have is with Warren Buffet ... give him a call in Omaha, Nebraska."

And why does this back up exist? Is it because the freight trains can't go further east of the Hill St during the rush hour? Is it because the Eola Yard is to small for the number of cars on the freight trains? Yes there have been times where the BNSF freight trains have been parked on the main line tracks by the Eola yard, but the Metra trains are still able to get through.

I believe you have just accepted the excuse BNSF and Metra keep giving on why three tracks are needed west of Aurora instead of questioning what can be done to work with the tracks that are already in place. Furthermore, most Metra lines operate with two tracks. The BNSF is really the one line that has three sets of tracks on the entire line. If you remember, when Metra started the NCS line, it only operated one way during the rush hours. Why? Because there was only one set of tracks and it shared this with freight the other times. .....

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Logansdad

8:42 am on Friday, February 3, 2012

cont'd..... I feel the reasons given by BNSF and Metra are nothing but a cop out as to why they need a third set of tracks.

Furthermore you state you feel only 40-80 people from Oswego would be using the train. Are those numbers just based on the Oswego Park n Ride service? Did you include the number of people that drive from Oswego, Montgomery, Yorkville and beyond to the Aurora station? Have you asked Metra for what their estimates for ridership would be as Metra actually takes surveys.

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josh zigman

11:58 pm on Friday, October 19, 2012

I just hope they do it soon my only friend I have moved there and I prefer not getting off at Auroraand then not know how to find my way to my friends new house in Montgomery

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