Will your logic apply to Todd Milliron too?

"the excuse i didnt know is bulls...."

Seems that Todd does not know a lot of things.

Todd, the voters are waiting for you to setup the escrow find to pay for this audit that you requested, if it turns out that your claims are based on nothing but your misunderstanding of the rules. You make public claims that you are concerned for the taxpayers, yet in your actions you are pushing an audit that will cost the taxpayers more than what you claim is even owed?

And an important note that is left out of this story.
Ann Vickery, a longtime incumbent(who is making these allegations) LOST in the primary to Dan Koukol(the guy she is accusing).
Todd Milliron(the guy who is demanding the investigation) LOST in the primary to John Purcell.
http://oswego.patch.com/articles/march-2012-primary-kendall-county-board-results#photo-9390994

I honestly don't think they understand why they both lost yet.

The cost keeps 'coming down', because the time period has been cut in half.

Of course other board members were taking funds and resources they weren't owed, that's exactly why Vickery was voted out. The majority of voters clearly remembered her 'entitlement attitude' when she was caught using government property to help her fundraising. It didn't take an audit for the majority of taxpayers to realize she was wasting resources, and vote her out. The board wrote its own rules, and it clearly states a per diem is allowed(contrary to Todd's confusion). The majority of the residents are not stupid, as you seem to think. They voted correctly in getting rid of those that lost in the primary.

The only reason Weis is getting 'involved' as you claim, is because in so many words he already admitted his office wanted nothing to do with this politically motivated nonsense, he recused himself due to a conflict of interest, and clearly explained that he would be getting a third party involved. Like was said back then, he gave Todd a chance to back out before making a fool of himself publicly. Todd filed his claims with Weis ONLY relating to Dan, not everyone. He spent all of his time on a single board member, who just so happened to have just defeated his 'partner'.

Now, you think that Dan is not open to the audit, after he went on record as wanting the longest time period to be audited?

Milliron and Vickery lost EXACTLY for the behavior they are demonstrating here.

Todd can't resign from anything. Which is exactly why it has been demanded of him from the start to setup an escrow fund to pay for the audit he was demanding.

He has no skin in the game, so to speak. When the audit comes back and explains that Tood misunderstood the rules(by trying to combine one sentence from one rule, with another sentence from another rule, to come up with his own made-up rule), and the only meetings in question were the 3 that have already been explained, Todd will be out nothing.

It's funny, that Vickery held this info for so long, because she was the one who approved all these claims that she and Todd are now questioning. She was the chair of the finance committee that is responsible for reviewing and approving these requests, and she approved them. Once she lost the election, she suddenly reversed her stance on this.

You can claim this is to 'keep them above the board' all day long. The motivation for this was Todd and Vickery working together after they lost the election, to attack those who beat them in the election. Their opponents were specifically singled out, not the entire board, as they are trying to rewrite history into.

When you have nothing left to attack, attack the messenger, right Todd?

I back up my claims with verifiable sources and links. It doesn't matter if it is me, or a 95yr old woman, the facts stand on their own outside of the person stating them. Your 'facts' however, exist nowhere but in your mind. I know this is hard for you to understand, because you are attached so closely with your identity and like to use the fallacious 'argument from authority', instead of arguing from facts. If you haven't yet noticed, the SA DID brush this aside, in giving it to a third party. The whole point of giving it out to a third party is to PROVE the accusations, not that they are already valid, and have a documented third party explain WHY the violations you claim are nonsensical. The SA even explained that when this happens, the accusing party usually pays for the expense in investigation of the claims. You on the other hand, have no problem pushing this expense onto the taxpayers to pay for your own witch hunt.

I have no intention of listening to someone lecture me on anything, who spent time attacking a board member for his retirement benefits, when the accuser(YOU) did not understand the structure of the IMRF that the board member is in. When the board member brushed aside your accusations that were based on your own misunderstanding and ignorance, you instead proceeded to attack him for not paying attention to your uninformed ramblings, instead of learning why you were wrong.

This is your life, Todd. These are the things you do. These are the things you decide the voters 'need to hear about'. Do you not like being examined in the same way you examine others?

http://oswego.patch.com/articles/county-increases-per-diem-meeting-pay
"I brought this fact to Mr. Davidson's attention at yesterday's Kendall County Board Meeting during Citizen's Comments and told him that the federal government could be helping to pay his medical expenses (With no change of benefits to him) and we local taxpayers could see and reap some savings if he would consider enrolling in Medicare. He could have cared less"

While I'm sure you meant he couldn't have cared less, the point stands. When someone brushes off your uninformed nonsense, you attack them as if there is something wrong with them, and not you.

Normally, you are an amusing sideshow that can be brushed off. Not now, however. Now, you are causing taxpayer money to be spent in pursuit of your politically motivated retribution.

You could have spent your own money, and taken the very board rules you quote as a reference(incorrectly), to ANY outside attorney and solved your 'problem'. They would have explained where your misunderstanding was, and it wouldn't have cost the taxpayers one cent. Instead, you took your complaint to the SA, who has a conflict of interest in your claims, and ethically can not be the one to give a public decision on it.

Do you know what the term 'projection' means, Todd?

And 9 out of 10 people enjoy gang rape.

Making decisions based on what you think is 'popular', is not a good way to go through life. I can assure you, this is not as popular as you think it is.

Just to be clear one last time. This is an audit called for by Milliron AND Vickery, to audit the very payments to Koukol that Vickery approved and had no problem with, up until she lost the election at least. Suddenly, it became a problem for her. At no point in her time on the board did she fail to approve any of these requests. It is exactly because of this petty behavior that the residents booted her out in the primary. It didn't take an audit for the majority of residents to know that she was a waste of resources to the taxpayers. Will you demand Vickery 'pay back' all the requests found invalid that she approved? I doubt it.

All of this gets overlooked, of course. Because what this is all about, and what it has always been about, is attacks on the political opponents of the 2 that lost the last primary election.

As someone who normally votes Democratic candidates, it is incredibly amusing to me to watch the local republican party eating itself alive from the inside because of nothing more than a case of being a 'sore-loser'.

Like I said before, and you still fail to grasp...
I still do not think these two realize yet why they lost the election.

what was sexist, Todd?

You can't help overlaying your own private thoughts onto others, and then blaming them for it, can you? Did you automatically think 'man', when I instead clearly and explicitly said 'people'? Once again, you are lashing out at others for your own misunderstanding of something.

You failed to answer the question Todd. Are you going to demand Anne Vickery pay back ANY payments that she approved as head of the finance committee, if they are found invalid? Anne herself said she was 'holding onto this information' long before the two of you started this after you lost. She is basically admitting she was approving what she thought were fraudulent payouts the whole time, in order to use after she lost the election.

Remember, Vickery told the SA in her signed letter, that she thought the solution was for Mr. Koukol to pay back the amount he owed. But when Mr. Koukol offered to do this on the spot during a board meeting, Vickery told him that was 'not necessary'.

The only 'parallel and coordinated attempt' at anything, is between you and Vickery to play political games with the taxpayers money as retribution for losing the primary election.

Travis,
All County Board (except the Chairman) members receive a small salary equally. I have been attending KCB meetings for around 5 years. There are certain KCB members that are assigned to more KCB committees than other KCB members. Some way had to be put in the board rules to account for the volume of work or number of committee assignments for each board member and that is the “per diem, which is currently limited to $85 per one full day, it does not matter if one board member does attend more than one committee meeting(s) and/or a full KCB meeting(s) that day, that KCB member is still only entitled to only one $85 per diem for that entire day’s collective meetings held and attended by that KCB member.

It is my educated guess that a prior board in years past decided that each KCB member should be compensated based upon the amount of Committee work and /or full board meeting work they do or were assigned. Some KCB members do more work than others. Those that do have the favorable work schedule or have the time, are assigned or can be assigned to do more KCB committees than their peers that have time constraints.

Your question about the objective, is it to "serve the County Board well" or is it to "serve the Taxpayers well?" I think it is was both and it worked well until Mr. Koukol was elected.

I'll wait for the results of the audit, but I'm not ready to agree with the statement that it worked well until Dan Koukol was elected as this does seem to reinforce Tim's argument that this whole thing is just singling out Dan Koukol. I have problems with the whole "honor system" concept and tend to believe that while Dan Koukol may be found to have abused the system, it is also very possible, as Board President Purcell has stated, others may have done so as well. The audit will answer this.

I still think that the honor system of a per diem is rife for abuse. Perhaps a flat salary for a committee assignment would be more appropriate. If a committee meets for an hour, is it really worth a $90 payment multiplied by the number of board members on that committee? This seems excessive to me.

Travis,
I'm sure the auditor will come up with some recommendations that will need to be considered and implemented. When I first ran for KCB in the early primary of 2008, I did my own review at that time, mainly regarding mileage submitted by KCB members in 2007. The board members I had mileage questions about were asked about my concerns and I did receive answers that were acceptable explanations for what was being charged for mileage submitted at that time. The KCB meeting minutes I did check for the meetings I was reviewing and that were held in 2007 (Landfill Hearing Days, weeks at a time) appeared to check out for the charges being turned in for KCB member meeting attendance at that time.

I agree attending meetings is a core part of a county board members responsibilities, as well as watching and paying the bills, but I believe the prevalent thought by prior boards was to only to pay the board members that actually do attend authorized and assigned committee and board meetings, hence the per diem system which was based upon one's honor and trustworthiness to follow board rules as written.