District 308 Superintendent Interviews Canceled After Location Questioned
Board President Bill Walsh said the meetings will be rescheduled for next week.
After hearing complaints from constituents, the Oswego District 308 board canceled two meetings this week to interview two final candidates to replace Superintendent Dan O’Donnell.
Board President Bill Walsh said Tuesday evening he had several calls asking why the board scheduled the meetings at Biaggi’s Italian restaurant in Naperville. The meetings were to be held Tuesday and Wednesday of this week.
“We have spoken to our finalists and decided to reschedule for next week,” Walsh said.
Walsh also said the rescheduled meetings will take place within the district and may even occur in a district-owned facility.
Lisa Elfstrum
7:09 pm on Tuesday, May 15, 2012
Is it standard practice to take potential Superintendent candidates out to eat at really nice restaurants for their final interviews? We moved here from out of state, so maybe I just don't get it, but something seems wrong about taking 308 monies to wine and dine anyone in another district other than their own, if at all! All the states I've lived in, those kinds of interviews are held in district offices! I'm glad a few people found out about this so they could speak up! Glad Mr. Walsh rescheduled, but it would be nice if he could just do the right thing to start with! Somehow this Board President should have some kind of accountability, shouldn't he? Are there no checks and balances in place to keep him or other board members from just doing whatever they please with our tax dollars?!?!
Richard Saunders
7:55 pm on Tuesday, May 15, 2012
Maybe the person responsible for teaching Walsh to press the "record" button couldn't make it?
Russell Pietrowiak
8:31 pm on Tuesday, May 15, 2012
This board seems pretty good at making news and not in a good way. Geesh you would think the search firm would have advised them about how to do this.
That being said It's not uncommon to take out the finalist for an interview. You want to be able to have a conversation in a relaxed atmosphere while also making a good impression. A little bit like a first date for lack of a good analogy. Keep in mind it's not just the board interviewing the candidates but they are also interviewing the board and trying to get a feel for how they would be able to work with them and the community. I will say it's just plain stupid to meet outside of the district. If you're going to spend money at least support the business that pay taxes in the school district. I'm sure all the restaurants in the district will feel real good about being bypassed by the school board, no chance that will come back to bite them.
Katra Knoernschild
9:38 pm on Tuesday, May 15, 2012
The board has yet to have a single interview with the candidates in an actual D308 facility, and then Walsh thought it would be a good idea to take the finalists outside of our school district for a finalist meeting? Talk about a complete lack of respect to the students, families and constituents within our boundaries. Not to mention the obvious fact that it's a slap in the face to all of our Businesses here within the district.
Just add it to the pile. Heck of a job, Walsh!
oCoMiK
10:17 pm on Tuesday, May 15, 2012
Gonna have to agree with the four commenters above me. IMO it shows a lack of judgement when this goes down while the school district struggles in a uncertain economic climate. Jeeeessshhhhh!
muvin on
8:10 am on Wednesday, May 16, 2012
'Nothing but the very best' in D308. We can afford it, right?
Walt Hines
10:46 pm on Tuesday, May 15, 2012
Sure nice of him to remember all the little people who are eating P.B.J's if we're lucky. I suppose this was on his tab?
I have to say this is the straw that broke the camels back for me. There are so many of us who are beyond struggling. We're working 2 jobs just to keep the roof over our heads and food on the table. He has the gall to take my hard earned tax dollars to flipping Naperville. That money could have been spent here providing a smidgen of relief. What's wrong with the eateries here, not rich enough for their blood.
Ticked, I'm beyond that. I've had my fill of the nonsense that's flying rampant in this district. Excuses, I've heard them all and I'm not buying one of them. I've got news for you I will NEVER EVER VOTE YES for another anything to suck more money out of my pockets. I can't even afford to take my own kids out to eat so I'm sure as hell not flipping the bill for anyone else, my family is going to come first for once.
One thing I still have is my vote and it's not looking good for the gaggle we got now.
oswegoin2000
11:01 pm on Tuesday, May 15, 2012
I really don't see the big deal in this. Do you really think they want to interview someone in an Oswego eatery? I cant imagine what the busy bodies in town would be doing if they recognized the school board during an interview. They would be taking pictures, spying, calling the paparazzi, and probably interrupting them. When they announced last week that they were doing interviews at tap house people threw a fit. So that leaves olive garden as the lone nice dining place and there is no private room there. Maybe they should have conducted the interview at sonic while sitting in one of the board members SUVs. It is obvious that there is no way to make people happy in this town.
Katra Knoernschild
11:04 pm on Tuesday, May 15, 2012
Maybe they should do the interview at a D308 facility? We certainly have enough of them. Surely they can find a conference room available. After all, we are talking about our potential Superintendent, not a potential Restaurant Manager.
Kevman10
11:14 pm on Tuesday, May 15, 2012
Bottom line is the whole school board seems to be inept from their past and current actions - this is just another one of those that exercised bad judgement, again... I don't know why they have to go out to dinner at all, we have multiples of schools that we overspent on, why not have the interview in one of those facilities. I don't understand why our schools have to have marble floors, walls, etc and then fine dinners paid for by the taxpayers. I had pizza rolls tonight for crying out loud.
Jane Enviere
11:38 pm on Tuesday, May 15, 2012
You know, you make a couple of good points. And after a long and largely lousy day, I appreciate the chuckle at the visual of the Sonic interview. Hilarious! : )
I do think it would be a good idea to conduct actual interviews in a district building if for no other reason than what you said - there are some privacy issues to be considered. I don't necessarily think it's a huge deal to go out for a meal, I've been out with candidates that I was considering for hire and I've been in the position of being the candidate who is taken out for a dinner interview. It's not a bad way to spend some time getting a feel for people outside of a conference room, and it's fairly common as you move up the ladder to have those experiences be routine in the hiring process.
That said, Biaggi's is unimpressive, but I'd take it over the Tap House. There's a place that we have tried to like but just never had a good meal. And in Oswego or not, they are totally overpriced for what you get. If they are up for Italian, I'd head north to Maggiano's off of 88. : )
I can only imagine how this makes our community look to these candidates. I'd be leery if I were on the other end of some of these moves. Makes you wonder what kind of a community you are considering, and how well the BOE has the pulse of those it serves.
John Weber
12:10 am on Wednesday, May 16, 2012
Oswegoin2000 - here's a clue, the school board who ran on being fiscally responsible and who actually seems to be anything but that shouldn't be interviewing anyone at any restaurant. Number one we are talking about public positions that we the taxpayers pay for. We are already paying for office space and building space for the school district to conduct official business.
This is not acceptable performance of a school board, if you do not see that then you are part of the problem. We're not talking about JP Morgan ripping us off here, we're talking about our school district who gets their funds from our tax dollars.
The way to make people happy in this town is to conduct business above board and to do it properly as a school district should be run not scheduling interviews at restaurants in Naperville!
oswegoin2000
8:42 am on Wednesday, May 16, 2012
This all starts at the state and national level and trickles down to the local districts. The real problem is that crooks like Michael Madigan can win office time after time and they put the state into this whole, but yet the blame is only put on the past governors. For example the current pension problem. The state government made promises to fund pensions. For 20 years they either did not pay into it or not for the full amount. This was on Madigans and Tom Cross's watch but they pass the blame to Ryan and Blago when in reality they possess just as much power and never spoke up till now. Now Tom Cross is trying to look like a hero for reform when he stood pat and all the money funneled out to other projects and special interests. The real problem now is the interest on the missed pension payments which should never needed to happen. Our state is a complete joke. That is the real problem. But come next election Cross and Madigan will win again and be rewarded for their mismanagement of taxpaper money. The taxpayers need to wake up before it is too late.
oswegoin2000
8:45 am on Wednesday, May 16, 2012
John Weber I think you need to get a clue. Did I say we should take the people out to dinner. No, I said given the choice there is no way in he** that I would conduct interviews in public in an oswego eatery. After reading all the comments lately on the patch I could just imagine the eavesdropping and interruptions that would take place. By the way I dont understand why everyone on here was figuring that their taxes would go down when the values dropped. Two things there are a ton of young children living in the district who need to be educated and a bunch of foreclosures and limited new building. So who do you think is going to pay this with the state making cuts too.
Kevman10
10:13 am on Wednesday, May 16, 2012
Oswegoin2000, I think one thing to consider here is that as more and more foreclosures take place and those of us who aren't in foreclosure are picking up the slack - how long before we're going to be in foreclosure, too? Spending in this county, town and BOE have to be reined in - and that includes wining and dining current and potential employees of the district.
Kelly
10:32 am on Wednesday, May 16, 2012
I love that this comment thread turned into a restaurant review. So typical.
Dan
11:24 pm on Tuesday, May 15, 2012
These guys just can't be this incompetent, can they? Didn't they run on fiscal responsibility? They only seem to be "responsible" (sarcasm intended) when it comes to cutting things for students or workers.The last board meeting, a member kept saying something to the effect of They'll work with us times are tough, every time she wanted to cut something. Hold your meetings in 308 with public notice not at Biaggos or the Tap House. Times are tough board, I think we can cut a dinner at Biaggos. I've been on dozens of interviews. They were in offices. Not restaurants. Ask this board to put its senior members in charge:
http://www.change.org/petitions/board-of-education-of-community-unit-school-district-308-request-a-change-of-leadership-of-the-oswego-cusd-308-board-of-education
gater
8:05 am on Wednesday, May 16, 2012
DAN those senior members that you are talking about are to blame for most of dist 308s money problems. we cant have our cake and eat it to .some thing has to give .so where do the cuts begin sports ? teachers aids ? busing ?classes offered ? all dist 308 employes? where ?
Jean
10:44 pm on Wednesday, May 16, 2012
Yes agree Gator. Our tax bill today is from the votes the past board made!
John Spasojevich
5:18 pm on Thursday, May 17, 2012
I've heard the "fiscal responsibility" tune so many times I hear it in my sleep. Beherns has been on the board 12 years, he took a turn at President and was just a big a rubber stamp for the Administration as any of them. Klussendorf's kid went to BH with mine and apparently urine spilling out onto his kids shoes from the urinals was ok with him, the boiler failures, lack of hot water, swiss cheese roof, chalk boards ( not white boards) word to the wood, all was just fine with him, while he agreed to spending MILLIONS on new schools without a dime to maintain the old ones. Graff....his biggest claim to fame, which no one knows about was on the last SDFAC comittee...one of the guiding principals was ti have parity between schools, he know I would press for renovation to BH and so he rammed a change through which made it parity in "educational" spaces...so we would get white boards but the toilets could still overflow. I'll stop there....some mean well and are stopped by the majority, others just seem to like having the title.
Walt Hines
5:24 am on Wednesday, May 16, 2012
O200 I suppose you'll find the 5x your share in future tax bills to be acceptable too. This is going to happen when so many of us just walk away from our homes we can no longer afford because of our tax bills. I have 1100sq.ft. not a McMansion and it's my tax bill that's killing me. Been here all my life and this is by far the worst I have seen across the board.
Mr. Walsh how do you plan on operating those additions? We'll guess what, you'll be out of luck and money when you come to the taxpayers for more!!! We have been spending past our means for years and you sir have just iced, decorated and delivered the cake. I sure hope you enjoyed it because the only other treat you'll experience on the tax payers back is stale donuts that were confiscated from my new way of food shopping " dumpster diving" or as it's called now " freeganism".
And for the love of God where's the rest of the BOE?
John Spasojevich
5:11 pm on Thursday, May 17, 2012
Hey Walt...you know they'll start up the scare tactics like the always do...we'll need to use mobile classrooms....we'll have 30 kids in a room..Well I'm 48 and there were 30 kids in most of my classes AND I pulled by son out of Thompson two years ago and because it was a joke ( I had two older step daughters go there about 8 years ago and it was fine then..) and enrolled him in private school in Aurora and guess what...he's in a mobile classroom...that mobile classroom has more technology than any classroom in District 308. But the parents who take their kid to the bus stop in the AM then pick them up in the PM just assume the schools are doing their job. If more actually got involved they would see what a travesty this is. Until what, 1995 this was a farm town, with farm town schools....then the trendsetters arrived because they couldn't afford Naperville but want all of the Naperville things.....and now they moan and groan because the bubble burst and we can't rob peter to pay paul anymore.
TLC Carpet Floors and More, Inc.
7:17 am on Wednesday, May 16, 2012
And we wonder why this town is broke.
MB
8:14 am on Wednesday, May 16, 2012
I'm a first time poster, and let me tell you, I'm a little afraid of what kinda of flaming I'll get, but here goes. Taking the candidate out to dinner anywhere just isn't necessary. We have plenty of beautiful district facilities that can be used for this meeting. After all the comments on all the various school subjects, you kinda have to be completely out of touch to think that this would fly right now. People are struggling! They certainly don't want to hear about THIS school board spending more money, unnecessarily. And Jane, you wrote,
I can only imagine how this makes our community look to these candidates. I'd be leery if I were on the other end of some of these moves. Makes you wonder what kind of a community you are considering, and how well the BOE has the pulse of those it serves.
Why don't we want any prospective candidate to know what their getting into? They are going to be paid a salary that will elevate them financially above most people that live here, so why do I care how it looks? They are going to find out pretty quickly anyway. That person will be one of the few in this town NOT struggling. I would want them to know that we care about and watch spending very closely, and if they cannot work under those parameters, then this is not the job for them.
Jane Enviere
9:12 am on Wednesday, May 16, 2012
@MB - yes, I did write that. Collectively, we look like a group of idiots who can't find their you-know-what with 2 hands and a map. The community can't agree on anything. The BOE schedules interviews and then has to go back to the candidates and say, "Gee, they are pi**ed off about the venue choice, so uh...need to reschedule." Whether you agree with what they do or not, and no matter where the blame is placed, it looks like we can't plan a one car funeral, as they say.
It's not about appearances as much as it looking like the land o' the clueless. Again - no matter who is to blame. Not exactly putting our best foot forward, eh?
Pat Stiles
8:16 am on Wednesday, May 16, 2012
Is it the fact that they are taking them out of town, or that we have to wine and dine them. I have a problem with both. I don't care what practices were used in the past. How may people get a free meal at an interview. Just interview them at the board room or facility in the district . We don't have to wine and dine.
Rachael B.
10:30 am on Wednesday, May 16, 2012
School Board, what's the matter with you?? Use one of the many FREE school buildings in Oswego for interviews and for all school business. How tough is this to understand? Cater in a meal if you really need to feed the candidates.
Just Sayin
11:14 am on Wednesday, May 16, 2012
Who's paying who here? Why would any candidates have to be wined and dined? Isn't that person going to receive a HUGE paycheck? With all the unemployment, one would think the candidates should be the ones who wine and dine!
GET A CLUE BOE!!!
Rachael B.
12:59 pm on Wednesday, May 16, 2012
Seems to me that with all of the "assistant superintendents" that this school district has that they should all be in training for the top job. Promote one of them, instead of going outside of the district and paying for a search firm to fill the superintendent post. If these administrators are not qualified, then downgrade their positions to "managers" of something.
Katra Knoernschild
2:38 pm on Wednesday, May 16, 2012
Rachel,
Outside of Marsha Hollis, who has announced her retirement, all of the Asst/Assoc Superintendents put in letters of resignation shortly after Dr. O'Donnell. Dr. O'Donnell submitted his not long after the board president announced that they would get involved in the unprecedented action of recruiting Dr. Hollis' replacement. Despite board policy 5:30 Hiring Process & Criteria.
What's next for our board? Interviewing and recruiting Principals? Is there no administration position that our Board isn't interested in micromanaging?
John Spasojevich
5:22 pm on Thursday, May 17, 2012
The public missed a very important thing. When Behlow was here all the helpers were assistant superintendents.....Just before Behlow left, Joel Murphy disappeared...he was replaced by Colvin who has been an assistant superintendent. Once Behlow left Colvin became ASSOCIATE superintendent. Anyone in the coporate world understands the significance of a title change like that...O'Donnell was the public face of superintenent but I seriously doubt he actually made any real decisions.
KarenN
3:45 pm on Wednesday, May 16, 2012
Yes, the BOE want to be involved in interviewing principals! Interviews were scheduled for May 10th to interview principals for Long Beach, but had to reschedule because some members of the BOE wanted to be included in the interviews. They obviously don't trust the people in the district to do anything on their own without the BOE being involved. A little weird if you ask me.
John Spasojevich
5:26 pm on Thursday, May 17, 2012
I wouldn't trust the central administration to make a decision either. In terms of AYP the two high schools were always said to be fine. I think it was two years ago they made the same announcement and then after a little research and an email, the next week they reversed themselves and said no they didn't make AYP... so did you or didn't you....so if you don't know the answer to that OR want to smoke screen me, why would I let you hire people directly responsible at the local level?
Lisa Elfstrum
3:59 pm on Wednesday, May 16, 2012
Anywhere I've ever lived, the district does the recruiting, interviewing and selection of their administrators at all levels. The BOE is in place to review, confirm and approve of those selections, NOT do that themselves! BOE members are typically not as well qualified to do the job of hiring but are in place as a way of still being involved. Who has given Mr. Walsh and the rest of the BOE that right? And if he/they have chosen that for themselves, we have a serious problem with them overstepping their boundaries and even violating the law, if I'm not mistaken? They just seem to keep doing what they please assuming none of us can or will do anything about it? We have to find a way to intercede.
John Spasojevich
5:29 pm on Thursday, May 17, 2012
As I have said several times, the public has never cared. They have no reason to think they do. The only time people show up is when the boundaries change, people never show up when it;s about money or anything else. I actually welcome it, given what the administrations have done when left to their own devices, it's good that they understand finally that they work for the board, elected for better or worse by the people. The board does not work for the administration which is how it's been for a dozen years.
Maryz
4:58 pm on Wednesday, May 16, 2012
While I agree that it is probably unwise to spend money at an establishment outside of the Oswego school district taxing body, I am less concerned about the $500 dinner bill than I am about the entire interview process.
The BOE has set-up candidate interviews that exclude any members of school administration, community or parents. They have made the decisions to hold these interviews in closed session. While I understand the need for confidentiality there are ways to hold interviews with various district stakeholders that will still allow for a confidential interview process. The public is not being given any opportunity to follow along with the process. In what meeting did the BOE decided to interview candidates at Biaggi's? I do not think that deciding when and where to hold interviews would be covered under
:5 ILCS 120/2(c)(1), Personnel Matters and 5 ILCS 120/2(c)(2), Collective Negotiating
The BOE seems to making many decisions under this provision and it seems to me that they have adopted a very loose interpretation of the statute.
We as tax paying citizens should be more concerned with the lack of transparency and leadership this board has shown. What is their vision for the district, what are they looking for in the Superintendents they are hiring. It appears that their main goal is to hire only those that are beholden to the BOE. What is the climate of the district going to be when your Superintendents have been put in place to answer to the BOE.
Maryz
5:08 pm on Wednesday, May 16, 2012
Only one BOE member is an educator. Do they hold such little regard for those that work for our district that they feel their input is not needed to choose the most qualified candidate to lead our district.
I have to question the abilities of all the BOE members that would allow for this farce of a process to continue. Setting meetings, cancelling meetings, not knowing how to turn on a tape recorder. This would all be funny if it were not for the fact that this board has taken it upon themselves to be the sole arbiters of the direction of this district. The hiring of the Superintendent is a process that should be done with the most thoughtful, careful consideration. The leadership of the Superintendent is meant to guide the 1,667 staff members that have been tasked with educating our children. While I may be frustrated and appalled at the behavior and lack of leadership Mr. Walsh has shown, it is my children who will bear the brunt of the incompetence of this board.
Our children, our teachers our parents and our community deserve better.
John Spasojevich
5:34 pm on Thursday, May 17, 2012
I'm all for having teachers on the Board. However, the Board deals with a multi million dollar budget, how many teachers have experience handling that type of money? THAT should be a real issue for voters. Why it never has I'll never understand. None of the members, past or present with perhaps the exception of two, maybe three, have truly been "qualified". To work properly, the Board should hire a Superintendent they feel is right, who understands he/she is responsible to the Board. The Board should not fall in love with the Superintendent as has happened before, they should not be afraid to make a change mid course. The Board then is free to oversee the millions of dollars and hold the purse strings. The way it has gone here though is hire a Superintendent then turn the purse over and just keep filing it up over and over without question.
Maryz
5:20 pm on Wednesday, May 16, 2012
All of these are links to Superintendent searches conducted by Ray and Associates.
This is what transparent interviewing looks like.
http://www.browardschools.com/superintendent/resume.htm
http://cmcsd.colfax-mingo.iowapages.org/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderfiles/022811specbrdmtgpdf
http://www.dekalbsuperintendentsearch.com/
http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=268070916554013
This is what the BOE should be doing. Instead we get this quote from Mr. Walsh
"Asked if community stakeholder groups will have an opportunity to meet with a field of narrowed candidates after the initial interviews, Walsh said the board has yet to make that determination."
“We will follow a process that will be beneficial for the district in identifying a qualified candidate,” he said.
How is it not beneficial to have community involvement? I'm beginning to think it is not beneficial to have the community involved in finding out what your true agenda is.
Katra Knoernschild
5:56 pm on Wednesday, May 16, 2012
I love this quote by Alison Swanson, made here on the Patch, Saturday, March 19, 2011:
"I am confident that with transparency and factual information accompanied by controlled and only necessary spending our great community will support us 100%!"
And in response to some of the points Mrs. Swanson was making around that point, Mr. Walsh commented to Mrs. Swanson as follows:
"In addition, at the OEHS Forum I stated that I believe there should be three to four annual, town hall meetings to provide the public an opportunity to have an interactive discussion with board members. "
http://oswego.patch.com/articles/candiates-answer-students-questions-at-oswego-east-forum
Jill
8:41 pm on Wednesday, May 16, 2012
If Mr. Walsh stated that, then he must believe in town hall meetings. It's a great idea. I wonder how all the other board members feel about being in them. Since Mr. Walsh is 1 of 7 members, I wonder if he can hold one if all the board members don't agree to it. I don't think he can force other members to join him if they don't want to, and it would be odd to hold them if only certain members show up. I think all members have been to majority of meetings and have voted on almost all items. Jill Ko
Rachelle Stoller
8:57 pm on Wednesday, May 16, 2012
I hear your point, Jill. The only problem is that Mr. Walsh did make a note of justifying the process as it has played out in his comments at April 23 Board Meeting (I would confirm that date, but I still can't seem to find meeting minutes online beyond March--could be user error). In particular, he stated that while it might be unconventional, it was not unheard of to conduct interviews without administration or the public present. I'm paraphrasing, and it is possibly that he was justifying something he wasn't in favor of, but he seemed pretty impassioned in his speaking.
Maryz
9:50 pm on Wednesday, May 16, 2012
Hi Jill,
Maybe you could email Mr. Walsh and ask that he bring this up at Monday nights school board meeting. Then we could have everyone vote and we could see who supports the idea. It would be great to have a q and a instead of the public just commenting without response.
Rachelle Stoller
8:42 pm on Wednesday, May 16, 2012
Interesting and well-written article from a gentleman from Georgia. It seems we aren't the only school dealing with this issue, but they seem to have a legal case against their school board. It sounds like micromanaging the Superintendent violates Georgia law. Any chance we have the same legislation here and just don't know it?
http://www.rockdalecitizen.com/news/2012/may/15/jeff-meadors-have-school-boards-overstepped-their/
John Spasojevich
9:18 pm on Wednesday, May 16, 2012
I'm really getting a kick out of these comments, especially those claiming the current Board is inept or incompetent. How long have you guys lived here? If more than 12 years how can you say this board is any more ignorant than the last three or four? Remember those boards are the ones that did EXACTLY the same thing this one is doing, but they did it behind closed doors. So be glad this one is displaying their ignorance in public! All I hope is that the finalists are NOT retired superintendents from out of state districts so we can end the double dipping.
John Spasojevich
9:54 pm on Wednesday, May 16, 2012
As far as Walsh not hitting the record button on five occasions...if Behrens, Cullick and Scramuzzi were at those closed sessions...why didn't they say anything...why not say "hey Bill, hit the record button"...Behrens is the most experienced in terms of longevity on the board..surely he was aware that the meeting has to be recorded. Lynn was President, she must have known. Smells odd to me. I've attended meetings, many in 2006 which brought us the last in a long line of referendums...the "jack you tax campaigns" as I called them. In the three meetings held a total of THIRTY members of the public took the time to show up. It's that legacy we are facing now, the actions of two School Boards ago are being reaped now. But no one cared, it was a mad rush to build and of you had any doubts you got the scare tactics...over crowding, mobile units...oooooooohhhh noooooooo not that ! Ok real estate will always go up so sure...gold plated faucets for all ( except Boulder Hill and Long Beach )...now that the bottom fell out and all the corporate types have relocated out of 308 we are left with the bills.....back in the 70's and 80's this district was not so hot....did it get better in the 90's and 00's...yes, some, but really what sold you on 308 when you moved here 'for the open space' was the skillful salesmanship of the builders and being cheaper than Naperville
John Spasojevich
9:26 pm on Wednesday, May 16, 2012
As to community involvement....again you must be new....where was the community involvement in the selection of Dr. Behlow or O'Donnell? It seems that the new members of the Board who were swept into office under the concept of finally bringing accountability to what was largely a rubber stamp for the whims of the Superintendent or more accurately the "Associate" Superintendent ( good riddance) have fallen out of favor with that same public who now claim they are micromanaging. I suppose after 10-15 years of no management what they are doing would seem like micro management. If the Board hires the Superintendent that means they have an obligation to see that he/she does the job to whatever level they deem is correct. The Board does not work for the Superintendent. The Board would not be involved in the hiring of the Assistant Superintendent of Curriculum if the old one has actually done her job. She was a hold over from the Behlow/Colvin days and probably should have been replaced sooner.
Walt Hines
5:28 am on Thursday, May 17, 2012
John you've hit the nail on the head. We had previous boards who spent like there was no tomorrow. Now tomorrow is here and we have nothing "notta" left to fall back on. Sure we can call our representatives and state officials but when the ponds are dry the asking will fall on deaf ears. We'll be seeing red all over the place and it's probably going to come from all the foreclosure signs we'll see throughout the district.
As far as the BOE I'm having a problem with "ALL" of them. Walsh is the ring leader but where's the others. "Speak-up" and not one of them is doing that, WHY? This entire board is to blame for the 3 ring circus that has come to town.
Wait until next year when our bills come due, we'll see increases of 60% and it will bankrupt this entire community. The blame will fall on everyone who couldn't and wouldn't live within their means.
Greg O'Neil
11:52 am on Thursday, May 17, 2012
I agree 100% with you John, when the big spenders of previous boards were busy racking up millions in debt, I don't recall all the screamers ranting about transparency. Most of the complainers are sore losers that wanted the third high school we couldn't and will not be able to afford for another 100 years. I do have some issues with the current board, especially in raising pay for administrators. The pay should have been LOWERED and an incentive based compensation package offered for RESULTS. Want to make big bucks, then earn it. Many of us already know the worse has yet to come, this community is doomed by the reckless spending of past BOE's. Once the tipping point has been reached (ie. it costs you twice as much to live in your house as anyone else in Illinois) the people will leave this town in droves, including the dummies that voted yes for that 450 million referendum without a clue on how that money would be spent or how it would be re-paid.
Maryz
10:17 pm on Wednesday, May 16, 2012
John,
We may very well be in the place we are because of past board actions but we can't travel back in time. I think it is important to learn from the past. As a community we have very little recourse. There is no recall option for the board members. Laurie, Dave, Mike and Lynn will be up for election in 2013 and the community will be able to voice their opinion of these members at that time.
I understand that we are in a financial pickle so to speak, what I want to see is a BOE that figures out a way to provide the best education for our students given the circumstances. These are not easy times and we need creative, visionary leadership to inspire and guide the district. We need to all work together and get everyone on board. This BOE seems to be holding their own private party. If this was the case in the past then shame on all of them. It does us no good to assign blame at this point. I would like to see some solutions that go beyond cut, cut, cut.
Greg O'Neil
11:59 am on Thursday, May 17, 2012
There are no solutions beyond cut, cut, cut. That is exactly what needs to be done. I have no problem cutting everything, I mean everything other than the core educational classes of math, reading, etc. You want more? Whats wrong with taking on that responsibility (and expense) for yourself or your family. Why is the government school the ONLY solution?
John Spasojevich
11:41 am on Thursday, May 17, 2012
So Maryz, if we dont cut and we don't raise taxes where does the money come from? Who is first in line to say NO I don't want thia program or that program who is the first to volunteer? No one because I want to cut what you want and you want to cut what I want figuratively speaking. So what's the answer. All I am asking is where were all of you when the last boards which contained Behrens and Cullick were spending and granting every whim of the superintendents? No where. Now its suddenly time to say stop. Its too late. Its a good thing the third HS was stopped. Why was it a rush to get it going? Becauae the bond referendum was nearing expiration. Did they ever say that? Nope. So if it had gone thru guess what. We'd be facing yet another referendum to the operating fund to run the place. Building rederendum money can't be used for anything else. There will be one soon anyway and its associated tax hike when the empty JHS come on line. What actions thar happen today will be felt down the road. We still have a lot coming down hill before its over. Also none of the board members but Mike have any financial background of tje type necessary to oversee a multimillion dollar operaton.
John Spasojevich
11:50 am on Thursday, May 17, 2012
Also having lived here through many boards I see their reasoning which appears to be micromanaging. They saw a total lack of oversight by those before them and like us got so sick of it they ran for election and in their minds are taking control of the situation. Does that mean its right or within guidelines? Maybe not. But as someone who begged and fought boards to get working urinals in my sons school only to be ignored while new schools grew like corn and programs were added and core curriculum neglected because its what thw community wants...I sure can sympathize
gater
4:04 pm on Thursday, May 17, 2012
if the school dist wants to save money ? dont add on fill in the pool at oswego east and use the field house for class rooms .cuts will be made get ready the cow has dried up people with kids in school get ready to pay .i dont mind paying for education but that is it any thing else parents can pay
Karl Knoernschild
5:03 pm on Thursday, May 17, 2012
Every day, I see proof of how important a good education is.
John Spasojevich
4:41 pm on Thursday, May 17, 2012
Funny that there is a petition circulating asking the Board officers to step down. You'd think there was real concern in the community. I'd ask the so-called "community" to take a long hard look in the mirror. How many from the "community" show up to public meetings when the topic was how many schools we need to build? Thirty over three meetings ( I know because I was at all of them). The work of that committee directly fed into the referendum committee. How many of the "community" showed up to those public meetings? About the same number. Now....lets announce a public meeting for boundary change how many show up? 200. Lets dump the 4 Block Schedule...how many show up for that meeting? 200. So WHY would a Board ever think the "community" cares about the money it blows? No one bothers to show up when it concerns money, but by golly move the line on a map and it's suddenly a uproar. I charge that the "community" needs to get it's priorities in order. If you don't like the cost now...you should have shown up then. This board while blazing it's own trail of ignorance, is also strapped with the crimes of the past boards which were committed while the "community" stood by.
Tax Payer and Parent
9:23 am on Friday, May 18, 2012
Hi John, I wish you would not condemn all past members of all past boards with your generalizations. There have been some of us who did speak up at meetings and did vote no on past spending. I served on SDFAC with you as well, and I hope that you remember my asking the committee: "what happens if this growth bubble bursts before we fill up all of these schools you plan to build?" - and I am sure you remember my getting scoffed at ! I also hope that you remember me stating at a SDFAC meeting to tear BH down and give those kids a new building, I voted NO to the renovation of OHS because it did not add capacity for even one more student. there have been some who fought the fight in the past. With that said I have always found the truth lies somewhere in the middle. There are a lot of good points made by many people in this chain of emails. There has never been any reason to wine and dine as a school board no matter what. It has been done in the past, but to intend to do so now shows extreme insensitivity to the plight of so many tax payers in our district! The elected board members were not elected to become friends and socialize at tax payer expense! The same holds true of a board and it's potential superintendent ! What purpose would it ever serve to find out what kind of a person a board member is in a social setting with a martini in his or her hands? None. The relationship being decided is one of running a business...the business of educating our children.
InterestedParent308
9:24 pm on Thursday, May 17, 2012
After patiently reading the posts to this article, I find it amazing at the lengths at which the posters go to state their case. More to the point, John Spasojevich seems to be the individual with the most anger. This board has demonstrated time and again that they are ill-prepared to handle the responsibilities of their elected positions. Beginning with the boundary issue, followed by the resignation of Dr. O'Donnell to the entire interviewing debacle, to this latest public display of being ill advised. Eric Weiss should have Mr. Walsh on speed dial.