District 308 Contract Negotiations Set to Continue Dec. 11
The Oswego Education Association will offer a counter proposal at the meeting.
The Oswego 308 School Board and the Oswego Education Association (OEA) will meet Tuesday, Dec. 11, to continue to discuss contract negotiations.
OEA president Darla Medernach said at that time the OEA will present a counter proposal, as requested by the school board.
The OEA opted not to put the board’s previous proposal to a vote by their membership back on Nov. 16.
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The board’s proposal included a .5 percent, 1 percent and 1.5 percent increase over three years on a three-year contract for all teachers with lane increases but no salary step increases.
Board President Bill Walsh said in terms of the step increases teachers would still receive that year’s service credit and the salary schedule would have no impact on the teacher’s seniority within the district or the Teacher Retirement System (TRS).
“The board appreciates all the administration and staff and teachers,” said Walsh. “Unfortunately, this economy puts financial constraints on how the board can show their great appreciation in dollars.”
The previous proposal also included work hours for high school teachers who switched to 8-flex scheduling from block scheduling.
The board had proposed the flexibility to assign teachers six instructional periods with one prep period or five instructional periods with one prep plus one supervision period.
The OEA originally requested to keep the current scheduling, which includes five periods of classroom instructional time, one prep period, one supervision period and one duty-free lunch period.
“Both parties want what is best for the students and to provide the best education for the students,” said Walsh. “I hope we can come to a resolution that everyone feels is fair.”
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Lisa Hutch
7:58 am on Monday, December 3, 2012
First off I would love to say Thank You!!! Thank you to all the 308 teacher's for staying on the job for so long and trying to work this contract out. Oswego that's how you know you have great teachers!!! Next 308 BOE please be careful because we have lost a ton of adminstrators (in fact you should think about getting rid of a few more in district office and have a fresh start) and I would hate to lose teachers. as well!
As I looking back on some comments made about the high school and the schedule change. I thought I read that the district wantedhe change but I believe I remember watching a ton of BOE meetings online when high school teachers came and spoke about keeping block schedule. I also believe a few of them said this would cost us more money but some how we still changed. I'm not a school teacher but do have kids in the district. I would love to know how one can justify all the wasted spending - lets start at the top, adminstrators, directors, lawyers for negotiations (didn't we pay O'malley a ton of money to do this job but yet from what I've heard it's a lawyer _ that's correct tax payer's money_to negotiate against the teacher's union), lawyers for opening meeting's act being broken, etc...
Anyway, I could go on and on and on but that would just make me a bully like most people that post on here. Why don't you look at other town's patch articles very supportive. So TEACHERS OF 308 THANK YOU. I hope you get something before the holidays.
JimmyJ
2:03 pm on Monday, December 3, 2012
Lisa..I for one and VERY happy that they changed back to a more traditional schedule.
I know a lot of teachers like it, I know there are many who don't both in terms of the 4 block and the flex 8. I know many students want more electives. My personal belief is that HS is not to explore career opportunities as much is it is to solidify the foundation.
AD
8:37 am on Monday, December 3, 2012
These teachers work so hard and compared to neighboring districts are being paid 7000-10000 less (up to $30000 compared to a high school district), so even a .5% raise (of course minus the 5% health care increase) is nothing. The fact that we are losing administrators is a red flag-- they can be paid better as a teacher in neighboring school districts. Retaining and being able to competively hire good teachers = good schools = higher property values. You get what you pay for. It's cheaper than having to go to a private high school, like many of my 308 neighbors are starting to do.
JimmyJ
2:09 pm on Monday, December 3, 2012
AD..as has been said here many times....how high do you want your property taxes to go in order to cover these costs? Without commercial / industrial development the bulk of the burden is on residential property owners. Most are tapped out. I sent two of mine through 3rd - 12th grade and my last one went from 1st to 5th, we now send him to private school in Aurora. There has been one thing left out on the discussions here. Some have suggested ODEC get moving and do something to attract more business, some have suggested vouchers. I'd like to see a charter school in Oswego. The public school system needs affordable competition. otherwise they just churn out the same crap knowing there is an endless stream of tax payer dollars.
Jen
9:41 am on Monday, December 3, 2012
Oh brother. Quit blowing smoke up everyone a z z !
They are severely overpaid in salary and benefits. I'd love to see IL. ditch the union teachers. What a bunch of crap.
Henry T
11:47 am on Monday, December 3, 2012
Well then Jen, how much should a teacher be paid? If you feel they are overpaid, how much should they be paid? 90% of what they make now? 80%? 50% ? Minimum wage? Should be lower the educational requirement teachers have to meet?
Jane Enviere
10:52 am on Monday, December 3, 2012
Best of luck to them. I hope they are all able to come to terms soon. Dedicated, professional educators, and we have many of them in 308, deserve competitive compensation and community support. Best wishes to both sides in resolving this issue quickly.
JimmyJ
2:14 pm on Monday, December 3, 2012
What this district needs is an end to it's monopoly. When you have it all to yourself yo can pretty much do as you please, especially when it's funded by tax money. Private schools are expensive. I'm able to scrape enough together so send my son but I still pay into D308 as well. Vouchers realistically will never happen here, the union has too much power to lobby against it. A charter school might be an alternative, Chicago runs theirs non-union. There are mixed results. But many have long waiting lists of parents wanting to get their kids into them. For me, the issue is that for the most part D308 sucks because there is no alternative. A charter school would provide a little competition maybe.
Walt Hines
2:49 pm on Monday, December 3, 2012
For all that hate the town and school so much you don't have to stay here. Why did you move here in the first place, the corn fields were plenty and you saw what was here. We all have choices no one has the ball and chain around your leg.
All 3 of my girls are straight A students with 2 of them in honor classes. I've never had tutors or sent them to a learning center. They pay attention in class, do what's required and then some. Maybe it's because we have no T.V. or game systems. If this is the answer then it would be easy for anyone who has these devices in their homes to remove them.
JimmyJ
3:01 pm on Monday, December 3, 2012
Walt we moved here from Geneva. Consider yourself lucky to have above average kids. One of ours in spite of D308 claiming she was qualified to graduate early yet havung to take remedial math at waubonsee is now doing well at Benedictine. I wonder why she couldn't do well on that test after attending the genius academy of OHS. Anytime you want to buy my place I will be happy to leave. Until then I will be a voice to counter everyone who fails to see both sides of the coin. Not everyone is fortunate enough Walt to have perfect kids and by the way we don't have an xbox either so dig for another excuse.
Jane Enviere
6:47 pm on Monday, December 3, 2012
I don't think Walt is addressing your ownership of a gaming system, JimmyJ. ; ) I do think he is making an extremely valid and significant point that is largely overlooked when it comes to criticism of education everywhere. Parental support is often non-existent. I'm not talking PTA membership and volunteering in the classroom. I mean knowing what your child is doing in school, helping with homework so that you know where he/she struggles, asking about what he/she learned in math today, and having an open channel of communication with their teachers.
I may not be the classroom party planner and I'm not interested in being a weekly volunteer, but I am very committed to knowing what is happening with my children, how they are doing, and following up with their teachers when I see papers come home, etc., to ask what we can do at home to help support their efforts in the classroom. When you sit in an elementary school classroom in what is supposedly one of the "award winning" schools in the district and you hear a teacher essentially plead with parents to review/sign homework, etc., you know parents are not doing their part.
There is plenty of blame to go around for the problems in education. It's time parents look in the mirror and get real about whether they are really supporting their children and their schools. Jimmy, perhaps you are doing it all and then some.. If you are, you're in the minority. Many simply expect those "overpaid teachers" to deal with it.
Walt Hines
7:13 pm on Monday, December 3, 2012
JimmyJ I'm sorry that your children have had a difficult time in school. I don't have above average children or perfect kids by no means. What comes easy for one takes extra work for the other. They all learn in the own ways and at different paces. I have kept on top of their studies and remain in close contact with their teachers. I have learned that in most classes there is extra credit that can be done to improve on the regular assignments. My girls have learned to reach high and then some. They're proud of what they have accomplished and that drives them farther. I'm sure sibling rivalry also plays a role.
Have you tried to sell your home? I know the market is terrible but maybe the end result would be worth a loss to get your children in the school of your choice. Sometimes we have to make sacrifices to better our family situation.
I do feel for everyone who was sold on the Norman Rockwell town. The people who moved here and were sold on the "American Dream" and the ones already here who saw their small farm town burst at the seams. Both sides had their dreams destroyed and we're paying the ultimate price.
Maryz
3:16 pm on Monday, December 3, 2012
Jimmy J,
There actually is competition. When families look for a home they look at the school district and the individual schools. There are plenty of private school options and if family would like the charter option there are plenty of them in other districts. Each family had the choice to reside in those communities. You often argue here for charters and vouchers but I have yet to see you provide one example of a charter that is doing a better job than our own schools. In my own research I have found that charters do not live up to the hype. Do our schools need work? Can they do better? Absolutely. Maybe the district needs to look at a Magnet program where they incubate new ideas and give teachers a chance to do what they do best, teach.
I personally cannot support the privatization and selling off our children's education. I would really like to see your stats on where charters succeed and public schools fail.
JimmyJ
3:20 pm on Monday, December 3, 2012
Maryz I don't argue for charters thia is the first time I mentioned them and I have mentioned vouchers twice. What I do argue against is the notion that teachers are to be gold plated. We actually did not move here for schools at all. It was a geographic compromise. When my last is done we will be gone.
Loreta J.
3:35 pm on Monday, December 3, 2012
Luckily 308 has a No Strike Clause so at least we're safe there. The kids will continue to be in school while they work this out.
Reality
4:35 pm on Monday, December 3, 2012
Umm, no they don't.
Loreta J.
5:44 pm on Monday, December 3, 2012
Maybe I'm looking at something incorrectly, if so, I apologize, but this is what I found in a document that is good until 2015. 15.1 NO STRIKE CLAUSE
During the term of this agreement, the Association, its officers and representatives, and all employees covered by this agreement will not instigate, promote or participate in any strike, slowdown or other concerted interruption of the operation of the district.
Reality
5:57 pm on Monday, December 3, 2012
Loreta...No worries. But you are looking at the Oswego Educational Support Professional Association contract. They are under contract until 2015. The Oswego Education Association (teachers) currently do not have a contract.
Loreta J.
6:23 pm on Monday, December 3, 2012
well, that it explains it then. Sounded too good to be true! LOL thanks for clarifying.
JimmyJ
7:47 pm on Monday, December 3, 2012
Walt well we are in agreement on both the school work and the town. If I had a better crystal ball I perhaps would have done things differently in terms of moving here. I do feel for those who have been here longer than I who watched their small town be overrun by wanna be napervillians. The developer signs should have read "attitude without the price". I shouldn't lump everyone into the basket but it is what it is. House has been on and off the market. Not underwater.
Walt Hines
8:09 pm on Monday, December 3, 2012
JimmyJ I wish nothing but the best for you and your family! If we only had that crystal ball I'm sure we could all have made different choices at some point in our lives.
Hoping that someday we'll all see some kind of change in the market. I don't think it will ever be what is was but that's probably a good thing.
May you and your family have a wonderful holiday season!
JimmyJ
8:18 pm on Monday, December 3, 2012
Thanks Walt the same to you. Community Resident sorry but since you are not a wanna be you probably don't have the attitude. Lots of nice folks there and outstanding schools. Oswego and D308 tried to keep up with the Jones rather than focus on itself. All the benefits of napervile at half the price. Maybe naperville was behind it. LOL
concerned parent
9:59 pm on Monday, December 3, 2012
I would say they need.to cut money from Distance 308 transportation department. Do you really need a director of transportation and a transportation manager and someone over mechanics. Or even have a transportation department. They should out source all there routes and extinguish their union drivers and there benefits they have to pay out to their drivers and save that money and cost. Out source all their school routes. They should also cut a lot of the deans at the schools remember when the principals were in charge of disapline u didn't need 2, 3, or 4 deans at a school. Also why do all the deans need assistants? A lot of wasted salaries in district 308.
Oswego Resident
11:32 am on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
Remember when the schools only had 600 - 700 students? And blackboards? Most kids worked on the farm (hence the summer break) and only needed the basic three R's.
Seems we have moved a long way from the Little White School House. But so has the rest of the world.
What would you propose that the suddenly unemployed district workers do for a living, CP?
Herm
11:07 am on Monday, December 10, 2012
The reason that a bird with its head buried in the sand is used for a cop out is because it is very discriptive. Even with its head in the sand, life goes on, progress happens, things change, towns grow. Oswego has gone from a sleepy little village to a pretty big town in the 40+ years I have lived here. I've seen the growth. In the process of growing, I've been able to meet some real quality folks. It has been a good experience. We happen to be in an area that was very attractive and people moved in. New blood, new thinking, new viewpoints. To me that is progress. I still love Oswego, and now I get to share it with new friends. We are not even close to being perfect, but we can get along and keep the community a good place to raise our families. I've always thought that some people seem to think there are only two perfect places to live. 1-Where they just moved from and, 2- Where they are moving next. Where they live now always seems to be a poor number 3