Assistant Principal Pleads Guilty to DUI Charge
John Francis pleaded guilty to driving under the influence on May 24. He was also charged with possession of drug paraphernalia, but that was dismissed, according to Kendall County State's Attorney Eric Weis.
A District 308 assistant principal has pleaded guilty to driving under the influence of alcohol, according to Kendall County State’s Attorney Eric Weis.
John Francis, assistant principal at Hunt Club and Old Post elementary schools, was charged with DUI and possession of drug paraphernalia in March, according to Oswego police. Francis, 31, of Yorkville, was stopped at Route 34 and Rickard Drive after failing to signal, and told police he was coming from a friend’s house, where he’d had a few drinks, police said.
Police found a hitter box and pipe used for smoking marijuana under a front seat, according to Rob Sherwood, public information officer for Oswego police.
On May 24, Francis pleaded guilty to the DUI charge, Weis said, and the paraphernalia and traffic charges were dropped as part of a standard plea deal. Since this is Francis’ first offense, Weis said, he was given 12 months’ court supervision, and a $1,750 fine.
Kristine Liptrot, District 308 spokeswoman, said that Francis remains in his position as assistant principal. While she said she cannot disclose what disciplinary actions were taken, Francis is following all the requirements and procedures, she said.
According to the district’s website, Francis has been with District 308 for six years. Before being promoted to assistant principal, he taught fourth and fifth grade at Old Post Elementary School. Most recently, he served as an administration facilitator on the district’s boundary committee.
Jack
7:14 am on Thursday, June 21, 2012
Really they're allowing him to stay? If I was convicted of a DUI (let alone plead guilty) I would have lost my job in a heartbeat.
Especially when they admit to dropping the drug charges not because of merit, but because of part of a deal.
Richard R
11:37 am on Thursday, June 21, 2012
Wow really you would have lost your job for doing something like this off hours for said employment..........Where do you work Jack tells us so we can avoid working there since it seems the will fire you for doing thing off hours.
And my above comments are no way advocating Drinking and Driving.
Missing34
8:12 am on Thursday, June 21, 2012
The kid passed his drug test after the arrest and there were no drugs found during the arrest. Many people do not lose their job after a DUI, many in this district to be exact.
Logansdad
9:05 am on Thursday, June 21, 2012
He is not a kid. At 31 is an adult.
Kristina Kass Blomstrand
8:23 am on Thursday, June 21, 2012
What is Dist 308 thinking? This is not a role model that I want for my kids! He's not just a teacher, he is the assistant principal! He knew he was drinking and he should have known better to NOT drive. I'm sure he could have called a cab or someone to pick him up.
Stop Complaining!
3:27 pm on Friday, September 7, 2012
How many role models do you see when you get together with neighbors and drink beer and wine in the circle of friends and your children around.
Jean
9:02 am on Thursday, June 21, 2012
WOW!!! Unbelievable!! I guess its who you know & how much they like you for sure! Absolutely cannot believe they let him keep his job!!!! I dont care how much you like him this is just wrong, so wrong!
Laura
9:19 am on Thursday, June 21, 2012
I personally know John and he is a fabulous teacher and role model for our children. The hitter box was not his. He had a few beers and got in his car after waiting over 1.5 hrs to drive after finishing his last beer. How many of us have gotten into our car after one or two beers and driven home? The majority of us would have blown the same 0.09 number that John did. The difference here is that he was pulled over. I worked in HR for years. I have never fired anyone for having a DUI. The majority of companies would NOT fire someone for a DUI unless it was done while on the job and their job required driving. Clearly, this is not the case. People get your facts straight and look in the mirror before you condemn a man you don't even know.
mecando
11:42 am on Thursday, June 21, 2012
I agree. He did what most adults did this past weekend at Prairie Fest....Right?
Come on people he is a good person.
TLC Carpet Floors and More, Inc.
12:29 pm on Thursday, June 21, 2012
The hitter box was not his? Dont know what it even is. But you can damn well bet there isn't one under my seat. Drug paraphernalia charges dropped ?. School teacher ? School assistant Principal ? Administrator ? He better be in one damn good counseling class. Having a beer is not against the law. Drug paraphernalia ? Great roll model for Oswego schools. Maybe we need to pay our Administrative staff more money. Don't like the flak your getting, quit. And get a fultime job.
oswegoannie
5:12 pm on Thursday, June 21, 2012
@Mark Chandler....I guarantee you I was NOT drinking and driving after Prairie Fest and there is NO drug paraphanalia hidden in my car, nor has there ever been.
Generalizing drunk driving and using drugs (dude never said the pot pipe, etc wasn't his...just his friends who are sticking up for him) as what "most adults" do is ridiculous. Also...I have NEVER driven after even one drink. I don't think I am the only one, either.
Guy could be the nicest person in the world but I don't want someone with such incredibly poor judgment around my kids.
Stop Complaining!
3:53 pm on Friday, September 7, 2012
Laura they don't want to hear this all the rope and noose carriers want is to hand the man. Three of the women on here wanting him to be fired always get together and drink and of course they have their children with them. Finger pointing is for 3 year olds.
r barrett
9:40 am on Thursday, June 21, 2012
It amazes me how people become saints when someone gets in trouble. Like Laura said, not one of you have ever had a couple drinks and drove home? I beg to differ. As a bartender in Oswego, I see first hand the amount of parents that have a couple pitchers of beer after a football game and hop in the car. Mr. Francis is a wonderful teacher, and my children are blessed to have such a great vice principle in their school. As for not being fired, that's the perks of being part of a union.
Matthew Lenell
10:20 am on Thursday, June 21, 2012
Administrators are at-will employees. They are not protected by any union.
Richard R
11:39 am on Thursday, June 21, 2012
RB it is only when someone from the school district does this.....then most of the commenters go off the deep end. Hahahahah
Jeff
3:51 pm on Thursday, June 21, 2012
Administrators are not part of a union! They do work full time, or they are paid for the number of months they work. Should he be fired? I think the drug pipe needs to be investigated, and maybe he should be fired. However, he deserves the chance to work that out with the district where he works. I am a teacher and I enjoy a beer every now and then, but because of my profession I make sure I don't drink and drive. And it is the law, and educators are held to a higher standard.
Andrea Minton
10:04 am on Thursday, June 21, 2012
It's his personal life. It's not like he was drinking at school and got pulled over on his way home. If that was the case then yes, he would deserve to be let go. Plus, the best role model for kids is their parents not their assistant principal. Those who live in a glass house shouldn't throw stones!!!
John Spasojevich
10:58 pm on Sunday, July 1, 2012
THANK YOU!! Have we sunk so low in this society that we have shifted the responsibility of being your childs role model to an assistant principal?
cindy
10:09 am on Thursday, June 21, 2012
Another example of the public employee's union at its best. We keep dumping money into our schools as the system continues failing our kids. Standing up for the best interests of this man over the best interests of the kids is shameful. As a public employee whose salary is being paid for by the taxpayer in addition to being a role model for our children, he should definately be held to a higher standard, rather than a lower one. We need to start holding people accountable for their actions rather thankless excuses. The children are the victims here.
Matthew Lenell
10:27 am on Thursday, June 21, 2012
Administrators are at-will employees. They are not part of or protected by any union. The union-bashers here really must understand who the unions represent and who they don't which, in the case of public employees and most other private industries, are people who are not in management.
mecando
11:53 am on Thursday, June 21, 2012
Please..............If it not for the union's this country would look like Mexico right now.
I do not and will not drink the FOX - TEA................
Jane Enviere
12:48 pm on Thursday, June 21, 2012
LOL - another anti-union rant by someone who can't follow union vs non-union employees. Save the indigination about union workers for a case that actually involves one.
I hope the guy learned a lesson and can move on grateful that no one was injured/killed.
r barrett
1:09 pm on Thursday, June 21, 2012
If the children are the victims of Mr. Francis's D.U.I., then my kids don't have a chance in hell to amount to anything with me as their parent because Lord knows I make mistakes all the time and I'm their most important role model.
joe
12:53 pm on Saturday, June 23, 2012
Cindy, every persons salary is paid by someone else. That does not give you the right to tell him how to live his life. This has nothing to do with "the kids" It is a non issue.
Logansdad
10:17 am on Thursday, June 21, 2012
I agree with others who have said that most adults do have some drinks and then drive later on ocassion. Do we honestly know what our blood alcohol level is before we start driving in instances like this? We all want to believe that we waited long enough before driving.
When driving late at night, cops will find the smallest thing to pull people over - not signaling, broken tail light etc. It is because of these things, that they find the DUI's etc.
I am sure this situation can serve as a teaching lesson for the community.
Walt Hines
10:21 am on Thursday, June 21, 2012
I love how all the "friends" jump in and defend drunk driving. Had he been in a rational state he would have called one of those friends. Friends don't leave friends drive drunk. He was operating a minimum 3000 pound weapon that could have killed someone had it gone out of control with his impaired judgement.
Frankly I don't care who you are it's not acceptable behavior! While he may be a great teacher/administrator he's certainly no role model. I also have every right to have that opinion since it's my "TAX DOLLARS" who pay his salary.
This is not the first time for 308 and I'm sure it won't be the last. They'll go on their merry way until they retire with full benies.
Logansdad
10:30 am on Thursday, June 21, 2012
Walt, I don't see anyone defending drunk driving. People are defending the person, not his actions. You say his judgement was impaired. How do you know this? Where you there when he was arrested? He was over the legal limit for DUI but how many people feel they are good to drive after they have been drinking? How many people actually know what there B.A.C. is after they have been drinking. Are you going to say you never broke the rules of the road. You never drove one mile over the speed limit?
Walt Hines
10:46 am on Thursday, June 21, 2012
Logansdad,
According to the law he was driving under the influence, was he not? Having one drink can impair ones ability to think straight, correct? Should he have been let go because he didn't act influenced from alcohol? The police officer for no good reason arrested him, Really. You have your opinions, I have mine.
Matthew he was a teacher first so if memory serves me correctly he should have representation from the union.
Logansdad
10:54 am on Thursday, June 21, 2012
According to the law he was driving under the influence, was he not?
Yes he was. I am not disputing that. The police officer did his job and so did the courts.
"Having one drink can impair ones ability to think straight, correct?"
I disagree with you.
The guy made a mistake and is paying for it now. Like I said earlier, this could serve as teaching experience for the community.
And by the way my tax dollars pay for his salary as well. It is nice to know you never made a mistake in your life.
Matthew Lenell
11:55 am on Thursday, June 21, 2012
The rule of thumb for those of you who don't know (and from discussing this with others how representation works seems to be a complete mystery for most) is that once you enter salaried management, and often just management, you must leave the union. The union represents the workers in contrast to management, It is a conflict of interest to represent both and that line is very clearly drawn. You lose any and all protections the union may have had to offer in trade for being able to negotiate your own salary and to lead others. This the same in the public sector as it is in the private sector.
In other words, it doesn't matter if he was once in the union or not. The day he entered administration, as far as the union was concerned, he became "the other side." There are many, many good potential managers out there who will never enter management for that very reason (in addition to losing benefits and pension.)
Walt Hines
4:53 pm on Thursday, June 21, 2012
Logansdad you're way out of line. I have never once said I have never made any mistakes in my life so don't be putting words in my mouth. I have made my fair share and have paid the punishment for them.
What I do have a problem with is drinking and driving in any shape or form. I never once brought up the drug paraphernalia that just "happened" to be under his seat. He's lucky to be in 308 as most districts would have him pack his bags! No zero tolerance must have a new meaning, or it doesn't apply to our employees, sorry kids it's just rules for you. There have been plenty of kids who have done a few stupid things on the weekend and have been side lined for games and meets. These events happened outside of school and school property, but the rules still applied.
Matthew thanks for clarifying that for me.
It's really a shame that adult venues with adult content and adult opinions can't be commented on in an adult manner. Adults have opinions and different views, what's acceptable to you is not always accepted by the next.
Logansdad
5:33 pm on Thursday, June 21, 2012
I am out of line Walt???? Is that because I responded in favor of the teacher as much as you did against? If you look back at my original response to you I asked if you obeyed every rule of the road and you choose to ignore the question.
Furthermore if you didnt like me making assumptions based on your posts that's to bad. I wasnt the one acting holier than thou. You were the one that said you were a 308 taxpayer. I get news for you everyone else posting to this article is probably a taxpayer in 308 as well.
Andre Salles
5:55 pm on Thursday, June 21, 2012
And this was going so well. Walt, Logansdad, please take it down a notch, both of you. Thanks.
Missing34
11:02 am on Thursday, June 21, 2012
I think what people are failing to realize is that the people that know him realize he made a mistake and that some are going to have an opinion of him based only on that mistake. Othesr who have weighed this mistake against the person they know him to be, the teacher they know him to be, the co-worker they know him to be and the friend they know him to be have come to their opinion based on how he handled this situation afterwards and on how he is preceding to go foward and tackle it head on, that his employment is more an asset to Oswego and the children of this community than it is a detriment.
Richard R
11:45 am on Thursday, June 21, 2012
Holy cow........Seems from the comments people who work for the school district better be completely perfect and not maybe even be human.........Since this group would have them tarred and feather for not being perfect...... Come on really? Get off your soap boxes people...... Really this town needs a enema.........One of my favorite lines from Batman by the way.
Stop Complaining!
4:06 pm on Friday, September 7, 2012
Hey Richard, what I'm finding is this community seems to have a hidden secret and that secret is, if you don't live up to their expectations you are no good. Some people really need to get a life and many of those complaining should pipe down and take a look at inside their very own homes! All of those secrets are going to come out more and more and then lets see how they feel when a blog is about them.
JPauly
11:53 am on Thursday, June 21, 2012
I can appreciate the district's mercy on this man for not terminating him with an issue many districts have zero tolerance with when it comes to students even touching a drop of alcohol. I will make sure to print this article up and keep it handy if one of my kids gets into similar trouble so the district can have mercy on them as well.
Loreta J.
12:53 pm on Thursday, June 21, 2012
Students drinking on school grounds is a valid argument for the zero tolerance rule. If they are caught drinking on the weekend, however, it does not affect their school enrollment status since it didn't happen on school grounds. Same with teachers. It's his personal time, and he is a normal person just like everyone else who made a similar mistake a lot of people make. Does not make him less of an administrator or a role model, it just makes him human. A great lesson to teach the students!
JPauly
3:22 pm on Thursday, June 21, 2012
I think you are missing my point Loreta. Of course there should be forgiveness for mistakes. Just like a sin is a sin, a mistake is a mistake and the same amount of mercy shall be given to all kinds of mistakes. Wedging policy into this does make what Mr. Francis did anymore moral. I guess being a likeable person has it's perks.
Loreta J.
3:58 pm on Thursday, June 21, 2012
JPauly,
I respect your position. I agree that you can't just throw policy into it and make it ok. I just don't think that people's idea of how he should be punished by being removed from the school really fits this particular incident. But your comment did mention policy as well, so I just tried to compare about the zero tolerance and say that it's not the same thing. The behaviors of students having alcohol at school and a teacher drinking on the weekend are very different. He should be punished for the driving part, and is being punished, and appropriately I think. that's just me. I mean no disrespect and I do appreciate all of these points of views.
JPauly
5:17 pm on Thursday, June 21, 2012
Cool Loreta. I think this is why I love our school district so much, because people care more about what matters than what will draw the most attention. Here's to a successful future for the kids at 308...
Alette Anderson
5:02 pm on Friday, June 22, 2012
Loreta- Students drinking off school grounds on the weekends in personal homes are punished by the school system. Removed/suspended from sports, clubs, activities. Suspended from school. It does seem like a far reach for the kids but not for the staff.
Walt Hines
7:28 pm on Friday, June 22, 2012
There was an incident with a few members of the football team damaging mailboxes and these players were banned from a number of games and some an entire season. This incident happened off school grounds and not on school time but they paid the price on both ends of the spectrum. It seems we have a double standard and that doesn't set a good example for anyone.
As long as your children attend school they will hear about this incident with Mr. Francis. How many of the children in the class that your child attends will have older siblings who have made this front page. I know first hand as I'm trying to deal with this at my home.
I still don't agree with this behavior and never will. I do have some compassion as there are family members who have also paid the price for a lapse in judgment, no fault of theirs. He will forever live with this incident as it will follow him and his resume for the rest of his life. That will be a heavy cross to carry.
Stop Complaining!
4:12 pm on Friday, September 7, 2012
You should do your very best to raise your children to be great productive citizens because it's up to you how to start them off in life, but to act as if your children have to know about this situation further lets me and everyone else on this blog know that you sit around talking about adult situations in front of your children.
JC Reveles
12:17 pm on Thursday, June 21, 2012
While I would prefer to have my kids be surrounded by "perfect" role models at Hunt Club, it's just not possible because we all are human. However, given the fact that this Administrator's actions get publicized in one form or another, and if he hasn't done it yet, John Francis should offer an explanation to all the HC kids and use this incident as an example of what "not" to do. I believe that a “humble” testimony would send a strong message to all of our kids especially when drunk-driving accidents happen very frequently. This will also teach our kids to accept responsibility. We're living the times when if a parent wants to volunteer at school he/she could get finger-printed or when a high profile Administrator makes a questionable decision it gets noticed by all (students and parents).
r barrett
1:02 pm on Thursday, June 21, 2012
Question. All of those who are appalled by Mr. Francis's D.U.I.... How did you get home from Wine on the Fox? Prairiefest?. Obviously he was thinking and waited around after his last drink. He blew a 0.09. If he would have waited a half hour more he would have been below the limit. I'm not condoning drinking and driving or smoking pot, but the notion that he should be hung is absurd.
Stop Complaining!
4:15 pm on Friday, September 7, 2012
Thank you!
oCoMiK
10:38 pm on Thursday, June 21, 2012
I really think they should have convened a firing squad and taken this guy out. After all he made a MISTAKE, took responsibility for it (from what is reported), and has been punished. But no doubt about it, it's not enough.
Let's teach our kids that there is no compassion in the world, that to forgive is foolish, and that to make a mistake, even one, is intolerable, no matter what the outcome.
For you genius' I'd say his actions have done more to demonstrate how a "role-model" takes responsibility for their actions. In my opinion some of you can only hope to have the level of character of this individual... AND I DON'T EVEN KNOW THE GUY PERSONALLY.
Robert Lawrence
4:49 am on Friday, June 22, 2012
To those that attack this man.. is there one amongst you that hasnt comitted a sin. Please teach our children mercy. What if he was your family member..hes a very good man. Remember when you point one finger at a person. You have three fingers pointing back at you...
Stop Complaining!
4:18 pm on Friday, September 7, 2012
And the next time you as role models in Hunt Club school district want hold an open conversation, try not to do it with children around. You should try not to not make up you childrens mind about this man. It's an adult conversation. Now why don't you train yourself to be better role models!
Jack
6:22 am on Friday, June 22, 2012
Isn't the school district the one that has the policy if you're a student athlete and get caught drinking, even out of season and off school property you're suspended from sports for a certain period of time?
Possible double standard?
JenKT
7:46 am on Friday, June 22, 2012
Legal consumption of alcohol starts at age 21. Apples to oranges.
Logansdad
7:42 pm on Friday, June 22, 2012
Don't the athletes sign a contract on what is acceptable behavior? I am sure the teachers sign a contract as well but it all depends on what is written in the teacher's contract.
Stop Complaining!
4:21 pm on Friday, September 7, 2012
Sounds to me if students are drinking, parents are not doing their job! Train your children and if your child is or has been pulled over for drinking and driving SHAME ON YOU!
Ruth F
7:22 am on Friday, June 22, 2012
In reading these comments, I guess I'm confused. He entered his plea on May 24th. When did this take place?
Andre Salles
7:40 am on Friday, June 22, 2012
The traffic stop occurred in March. Second paragraph.
dolores
8:05 am on Friday, June 22, 2012
Mr Francis made a decision his first year at Old Post that at the time really hurt my child, the principal told me then she "trusted his choice". It seems now my 17 year old has more sense than Mr Francis. can anyone say Karma?
Stop Complaining!
4:25 pm on Friday, September 7, 2012
Really dolores are you serious. Get it together and 14 years later you are still holding on to that mess. Get a life and just make sure that those parties your kid is attending are not like the ones you attend with the lite tastings of the wonderful wine and spirits. Train your kid to be better and stop it with the nonsense. Talk about holding a grudge! Geezzzzzzz
Ashleigh
8:20 am on Friday, June 22, 2012
So when will all these parents be telling their elementary school children about this assistant prinicpal's D.U.I? I am sure that all these young children will be reading the news anyways. Some of you need to get a life. He is not just a teacher, but a person. Your children will not know unless you tell them. If they find out, I am sure it will be when they are old enough to understand that it is wrong.
Jane Enviere
11:45 am on Friday, June 22, 2012
I would assume that most people will not be discussing it with their kids. Why would they? My children don't attend that school, but I'd be hard pressed to find it necessary to discuss it with them even if they did. They are too young, don't read the paper, etc. There just wouldn't be a reason.
In a perfect world, no one would make these types of mistakes, that's true. But I'm actually far more bothered by parents strolling my neighborhood on Halloween with a beer in hand, or boozing it up in the front yard while they "watch" the kids play. That situation would likely require more of an explanation from me than some random assistant principal's DUI. My kids don't even know who their assistant principal is. LOL - probably an altogether different problem. ; )
momofmany
8:47 am on Saturday, June 23, 2012
The whole situation is just sad. I did not have to tell my Old Post students about the situation they came home the day after it happened & told ME! They both like Mr. Francis. They are not old enough to fully understand this yet it became a family discussion. Not sure how I really feel about the whole situation but I do know that my older kids who participate in sports in the district are crying "double standard"! So I guess the point is no matter who you are young or old, it is a hard situation to understand.
Kbell
9:56 am on Friday, June 22, 2012
Yeah I agree why would you even tell your kids at that age about the situation? They really aren't old enough to understand. Let's leave it alone he made a mistake and I'm sure it won't be made again. I'm sure it was a huge learning moment for the rest of the district.
Stop Complaining!
4:29 pm on Friday, September 7, 2012
WELL SOME IDIOT FOUND IT A GOOD IDEA TO TELL THE STUDENTS......WAIT MAYBE IT WAS THE SWEET PARENTS STANDING OUTSIDE WITH A TEACHER ASSISTANT TALKING ABOUT IT LIKE THEY WERE AT HUNT CLUB. Just crazy!
S. Stevens
10:42 am on Friday, June 22, 2012
I'm finding it comical that the authors decided to go from using the descriptive "drug paraphernalia" to "hitter box". Was that a professional editorial decision?
Andre Salles
11:25 am on Friday, June 22, 2012
"Possession of drug paraphernalia" is the official charge. "Hitter box" is the term the police used to describe the actual drug paraphernalia.
justadude
12:03 pm on Friday, June 22, 2012
sad truth is people USED to have higher standards of what kind of teachers/role models they wanted for their children. now we are more concerned about the hourly worker, truck driver, factory worker, mail person, etc ...people that are never around our kids having cleaner records than the person that is with our kids 6-7 hours a day. yeah, that makes a lot of sense. keep up the good work Oswego 308. p.s. if the janitor did that, would he still have a job too?
Jane Enviere
12:21 pm on Friday, June 22, 2012
My guess is "yes". Short of a bus driver who transports children, or perhaps another position that requires the use of district-owned vehicles, my guess it that an employee would not be termed for DUI. In most places of employment not just a school district, most likely.
Logansdad
12:53 pm on Friday, June 22, 2012
The sad truth is parents used to have high standards and morals for their children. How many children in Oswego are arrested for underage drinking and drug use/possession? How many children are arrested for battery? Not to long ago some high school kids were arrested for pulling a fire alarm - a felony. What kind of values and morals are the parents tecahing theses kids? Some people are more worried about what happens to the teachers when they are off the clock than they are about the children.
joe
1:04 pm on Saturday, June 23, 2012
That 6 hours is the best 6 hours of your kid's day Mr.dude. How does one DUI reflect on the entire district? Take the time to meet a few dist 308 teachers and you will be impressed. We are the best!
WATCHMAN
3:25 pm on Friday, June 22, 2012
Let's face it... Missing a lightbulb, a front license plate, or forgetting to put on your turn signals are potential $$$ makers for our police department . Aside from being listed in the paper and discussed publicly, this guy had his car towed, impounded, lawyered up, fined, and now put on notice. I remember when I was once pulled over, the officer drove me to the next town and an officer from there gave me door to door service! I'm certainly not advocating driving under the influence, but I do think we need to look and see if we are becoming a military state. I'm not sure what his contract states, nor do I know his state of remorse, so let's not pass judgement!
THE WATCHMAN
Steve Michales
10:40 pm on Friday, June 22, 2012
People should not be minimizing DUI. Alcohol-related crashes kill over 13,000 people a year in the United States, and contribute to over 50,000 injuries.
Chris Vavrinek
8:45 am on Saturday, June 23, 2012
I have two kids in Old Post and I am now supposed to tell my kids to respect and listen to their assistant principle that can't tell the difference between what is legal and what is not legal. This assistant principle could fix the entire situation here and make a public speech to the kids about what is right and wrong and then step down from his assistant principle position.
mecando
9:23 am on Saturday, June 23, 2012
We are human and we all..... make mistakes. The good humans learn from those mistakes and the bad ones don't.....He is an assistant principle and had a couple of beers on his day off. He blew a .09 one point over the legal .08 he's not the former president of the united states of America that started a war that caused the deaths of tens of thousands of people for NO TRUE REASON. He never excepted responsibility and he didn't step down either. How does one explain that to their children... "Perspective"
oswegoannie
12:28 pm on Saturday, June 23, 2012
Chris - BRILLIANT and I 100% agree with you!
gater
8:55 am on Saturday, June 23, 2012
as a const worker you have to pass a drug test to work on the school when there are no students present .but an employee who works for the school around students all day does not
oswegoannie
12:27 pm on Saturday, June 23, 2012
@gater - excellent point. Employees at my company are randomly drug tested even after beginning their employment. We don't work around or influence children but are held to a very high standard of conduct. Why would I expect less from Oswego 308 employees?
Driving drunk is stupid, dangerous and illegal although, yes, drinking is not. But In the case of drugs...illegal no matter the circumstances. Francis should have been let go.
Logansdad
12:51 pm on Saturday, June 23, 2012
I have lived out in Oswego for 10 years. This is the 1st instance of DUI by a teacher/educator. I feel this situation is being blown out of proportion. It is not like it is a regular occurrence. Why is it that people are more concerned about what happens outside of school than what their kids are being taught in school. Where is the high regard and wanting high standards when it comes to what kids are being taught in school.
If everyone feels that teachers should be put on a pedestal when it comes to their moral conduct, then it is up to the community to voice their concerns to the school board and get it in the teacher's contracts. If it is not there now, they can't be punished for it.
Jennifer Lara
1:30 am on Sunday, June 24, 2012
I am just curious how many of these commenters actually have students that attend Old Post or Hunt Club. I have a child at Old Post who loves Mr. Francis. On the occasions I see him, I've seen nothing but positive interactions with the children. If it comes up with my child I will teach her what I've been teaching her: people make mistakes and there are consequences for those mistakes. I hear all this "Higher standard" talk and I cringe a little. Oswego is a little better than some districts, but I see the pressure placed on the schools. Teachers and administrators are under pressure from every level of Government, and community and hold one of the most vital "jobs" in the world. They are expected to teach, mentor, train, and sometimes practically raise our children in the classroom, and are typically shown continued disrespect from antiquated opinions like the flooring guy shared about how they don't have a "real full-time" job. Then one makes a mistake, outside the classroom, which is publicized mercilessly by an "impartial" press. (Sorry Andre, but there have been many other people with DUI charges that have not gotten the level of press coverage that Mr. Francis has-but hey, look at how many people are responding to this article). If he does his job well (which he does) he should keep it, even the greatest leaders of our country made much worse mistakes and still rose to do great things.
CJ
2:07 pm on Monday, June 25, 2012
I do also have children at Old Post. They are fond of him. Since they are younger and well behaved, I admit I do not have much contact with the administration other than family days and events. I do not have a higher standard for him than I would with anyone in my children's lives. If a fellow parent received a DUI "on their own time", we would not be leaving them at their house for a playdate. Our tax money pays for this individual to exercise good judgement, which he did not. We chose an to live in an area with higher taxes and better schools for a reason. I am disappointed that the moral standards are not on par with the academic ones. Anyone that has a child, especially in upper elementary, should have the expectation that their child may come in contact with a newpaper, internet article, or a friend who knows. Unfortunately, we can not shield our children from everything and have to be ready to explain that all behavior has consequences. Even my small children and I had a very simple "drugs are bad and you never drink and drive when you grow up" talk just in case they heard gossip at school. The young adult that was killed on Saturday morning is exactly why DUIs can not be acceptable. By saying he deserves his job, we are condoning this behavior and not seeing it as dangerous.
Amy Adam-Jenkins
1:33 am on Monday, June 25, 2012
I have had nothing but positive experiences with Mr Francis, as he taught one of my children when he was a teacher at Old Post.
He made a mistake, outside of the classroom, on his own time, in his personal life. If anyone can take this mistake and turn it into a positive learning experience, it will be Mr Francis. He is the first one to step up to the place and admit responsibility and accountability, and will use his error in judgement as as an example towards his students and his own children. Is our community forgiving enough to just move on?
John Spasojevich
9:54 pm on Monday, June 25, 2012
Gimme a freekin break....!!! Everyone here looking for this guys head on a silver platter needs to get a grip. So he was caught on a DUI and other stuff and you want him fired because he's now suddenly a bad role model. Ok...so should we fire teachers who become pregnant and single? Pregnancy isn't against the law but is an unmarried pregnant teacher a good role model? Lets fire them too.
SadDist308
7:01 am on Wednesday, June 27, 2012
Met him once, social drinking setting. Seemed like a nice guy who did care about the kids and Dist 308. Sadden by the situation. My thought is the Dist made their decision based on the law and not on public values and standards. We are a public school system and this is how the Dist is run. Had he been charged on all counts the Dist might have done things differently. Do I believe that that the Dist made the right choice? My opinion does not matter. If I want values and morals to be upheld I know I need to enforce them at home and/or put my children in a private school. But main concern is for the children who view all of your comments and hear of his situation. Adults, why don't we stop this arguing and think about the kids first. Maybe you think he didn't put the kids first, but nor are some of you.
John Spasojevich
11:08 pm on Sunday, July 1, 2012
Let me put this out there and see if it sinks or floats. It seems that we want perfect people to be teachers and administrators. We attempt to enforce zero tolerance in various regards. When the kids we try to shield get to the world, they find it's not the way it is. They find out way before we think they do anyway but they let us keep our illusion. Is it a better example youth to show that there is forgiveness, and way way back or is the better example to show that there isn't. I'm just pondering the choices.
John Spasojevich
11:11 pm on Sunday, July 1, 2012
People seem to not to want this guy around. I just thought of something that came up the last time there was a transportation issue. I don't recall the issue at the time but I remember several parents being very afraid that their 1st grader would be on a bus with JHS and HS students. thinking about this I'm wondering what the concern is, all of the students have perfect role models at school....
john
4:26 pm on Friday, August 24, 2012
how come 308 has done nothingwe need to protest out side old post and show him this is not accepetable to the kids and parents of 308.
Stop Complaining!
4:31 pm on Friday, September 7, 2012
Shut up john!
john
7:00 pm on Friday, September 7, 2012
what's the problem stop complaining
I guess your part of his defense remember he pled guilty!!!!! and 308 did nothing
i think we should talk to a spokesperson form mothers against drunk dirving and see what they say i'd bet they would like to know about this.maybe if he slams in to your car some night you'll look the other way again and from your hospital bed you won't complain.
john
7:07 pm on Friday, September 7, 2012
by the way stop complaining once you have been afected by a drunk driver you never forget. he made the wrong decision how many wrong decisions will he make for those kids, parents start some kind of protest so everyone can see. please before it's to late
Amy Spraggs
9:05 pm on Friday, September 7, 2012
And by the way John I have and I still say mind your business! Clean up your own house before you try to clean up others. How would you like for someone to blow your name around like you're a nobody and sit back and watch yourself be destroyed by people that have a house full of hidden mess. Do you drink, beat your wife or husband, do you stare at little children in an manner that will be deemed as unfavorable, do you spank your children, do you go to neighborhood gatherings and stop them from having alcohol, do you do anything besides talk crap about others and try to get people to rally against others? Assistant Principal now, what's later? Let's rally against kids riding their bicycles in the neighborhood, let's stop family dinners and oh wait john, why don't we get a group together to monitor undesirables are moving into our neighborhood? I laugh at busy bodies like you john because with all the things that you and the let's hang him mob could be doing john you choose to bang the head of a man that made a mistake. I wonder how many mistakes you have made and just got away with them, but do trust and know that our wonderful police will catch if not you, someone that you know! Just you wait! Your day is coming. Just wait. Sirens and then you get to give your script! Shut up and do what it seems that you do best and that's complain! We've heard enough about you anyway. Now, fix your own home!
john
8:06 am on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
stop complaining
I'm sorry I'd didn't know you have been living in my pocket for the last 49 years,and you know more about me then I do. I'll do my next load at the laundary mat,the machines are better so maybe you,ll be wased out to live in someone eles pocket for a change sounds like you need one cause aferter all finger pointing is for 3 year olds.
Amy Spraggs
9:21 pm on Friday, September 7, 2012
Oh so I see somehow my name is showing and its okay and I still say mind your business! Let the law do what it has to do.
john
6:08 am on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
ok stop complaing
you got me yes i drink yes , but the difference here is that even without a college education i'm smart enough to make the right decison to call a cab,or call a friend.
you see i'm not against his drinking so much or even the drug stuff, it's the decision
that was made. to chance it. Now what decisions will he make in the future that affect
the kids at old post and huntclub will he just chance it and hope for the best. My
guess is yes and hope to not get caught. You sound like a cheerleader for him but you see i didn't get arrested for dui he did. So i'm entitled to my opion i share in the
payment of his salary if character counts he should step aside and practice what he preaches. In your last rant is sounds like you want me arrested let them I've got nothing to hide i like how you try to switch topics and make me the bad guy.
Remind yourself we are taking about someone who has our kids futres in hand.